Supporters of capitalism, especially the Von Mises school, may not be
able to conceive of production without money and prices, but we
socialists can. The definitive answer to the "economic calculation
problem" is a (largely) self-regulating system of stock control in which
calculations are made in kind rather than in terms of a common unit
like money.
A self-regulating system of stock control will permit producers in a
socialist society (workplace councils, industry councils etc) to
ascertain more or less immediately the availability of stocks of any
particular item throughout the system; the communications technology to
enable this to happen is already in place.
Given this, their assertions that the "only practicable way to tell how
'abundant' B is, by comparison with A, is to look at the relative
prices" is absurd.
'Abundance' is a relationship between supply and demand, where the
former exceeds the latter. In socialism a buffer of surplus stock for
any particular item, whether a consumer or a producer good, can be
produced, to allow for future fluctuations in the demand for that item,
and to provide an adequate response time for any necessary adjustments.
Achieving 'abundance' can be understood as the maintenance of an
adequate buffer of stock in the light of extrapolated trends in demand.
The relative abundance or scarcity of a good would be indicated by how
easy or difficult it was to maintain such an adequate buffer stock in
the face of a demand trend (upward, static, downward).
It will thus be possible to choose how to combine different factors for
production, and whether to use one rather than another, on the basis of
their relative abundance/scarcity. By following the rule of using the
minimum necessary amounts of the least abundant factors it will be
possible to ensure their efficient allocation.
Money as a "general unit of cost" just would not come into it.
In further asserting that "if the output of X is increased, output of Y
must be reduced" they are begging the question at issue, which is
precisely, whether or not, resources are and always will be, scarce.
It is to assume that society's resources are fully stretched and that
there are no reserves to draw upon. But given the productivity of modem
technology and the elimination of capitalist waste, there are likely to
be substantial untapped reserves. In addition, socialist society can, as
just explained, deliberately plan to produce surpluses of various items
just to meet the eventuality you have in mind.
With regard to human resources in particular, even today under
capitalism tens of millions of people are unemployed. Though of course
in socialism no one will be "employed" as such, the average workload for
individuals is likely to be much less (thus resulting in a sizeable
reservoir of labour) and the opportunities for individuals to move
flexibly from one kind of work to another much greater.
This will make much less likely the occurrence of the bottlenecks they
foresee in the production of any particular good following an unexpected
increase in demand for it.
But scarcity is not simply a function of supply; it is also a function
of demand. It is in this area that the anarcho-capitalist critique of
socialism, based on its premise of infinite demand, is particularly weak
and unrealistic. For it takes little, if any, account of the effect of
the social environment on the likely structure and size of demand in
socialism.
In a system of capitalist competition, there is a built-in tendency to
stimulate demand to a maximum extent. Firms, for example, need to
persuade customers to buy their products or they go out of business.
They would not otherwise spend the vast amounts they do spend on
advertising those products. At the same time, there is in capitalist
society a tendency for individuals to seek to validate their sense of
worth through the accumulation of possessions.
This is not surprising for if, as Marx contended, the prevailing ideas
of society are those of its ruling class then we can understand why,
when the wealth of that class so preoccupies the minds of its members,
such a notion of status should be so deep-rooted. It is this which helps
to underpin the myth of infinite demand.
In socialism, status based upon the material wealth at one's command,
would be a meaningless concept. Why take more than you need when you can
freely take what you need?
In socialism the only way in which individuals can command the esteem
of others is through their contribution to society, and the more the
movement for socialism grows the more will it subvert the prevailing
capitalist ethos, in general, and its anachronistic notion of status, in
particular.
Nor do we accept their premise that prices arise out of conditions of
scarcity. They arise out of conditions of private property.
So even if genuine shortages occur in the conditions of common
ownership that will exist in socialism - it is likely that some
shortages (e.g. decent housing) will persist (if only as a receding
problem) into the early stages of socialism - this will not undermine
the new society by leading to the re-emergence of money and prices.
For socialism to be established, there are two fundamental
preconditions that must be met. Firstly, the productive potential of
society must have been developed to the point where, generally speaking,
we can produce enough for all. This is not now a problem as we have
long since reached this point. However, this does require that we
appreciate what is meant by "enough" and that we do not project on to
socialism the insatiable consumerism of capitalism.
Secondly, the establishment of socialism presupposes the existence of a
mass socialist movement and a profound change in social outlook. It is
simply not reasonable to suppose that the desire for socialism on such a
large scale, and the conscious understanding of what it entails on the
part of all concerned, would not influence the way people behaved in
socialism and towards each other. Would they want to jeopardise the new
society they had helped create? Of course not.
One must therefore assume that whatever shortages may persist can be
tackled by some system of direct rationing and will be borne with
forbearance - even, one might say, with a sense of altruistic restraint.
For whatever the problems that socialism may have to contend with, and
there will still be many, if the alternative has to be the
re-instatement of capitalism then there would not be a real alternative.
Capitalist supporters in pursuit of glittering profit ignore the twin concomitants springing from the bosom of their iniquitous economic class domination system, of war and poverty. They seem to know the price of everything but the value of nothing.
Since the demise of most of the smoke stack industries in Scotland and elsewhere the, passing of the Clean Air Act 1956
which was an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom passed in
response to London's Great Smog of 1952. It was in effect until 1964,
and sponsored by the Ministry of Housing and Local Government in England
and the Department of Health for Scotland.
The Act introduced a number of measures to reduce air pollution,
especially by introducing "smoke control areas" in some towns and cities
in which only smokeless fuels could be burned. By shifting homes'
sources of heat towards cleaner coals, electricity, and gas, it reduced
the amount of smoke pollution and sulphur dioxide from household fires.
Reinforcing these changes, the Act also included measures to relocate
power stations away from cities, and for the height of some chimneys to
be increased.
The Act was an important milestone in the development of a legal
framework to protect the environment. But it came rather late on after
capital had exhausted its initial steamrollering of human rights and
expectations of dignity in life and work and in response to the fact
that the killing smogs of the day could not be expected to distinguish,
which class of lungs they permeated, as city institutions demanded at
least some occasional attendance from the moneyed classes.
"I'm not sure a fully egalitarian system will ever be possible with capitalism; but this is as good as it's going to get. Capitalism, despite its evident faults, has a proven track record of lifting people out of poverty. Socialism has never been tried, its Marxian version - of a wageless, class-less society - is pie-in the-sky, as Lenin recognized. Since his day, socialism has simply referred to varying degrees of state control and expenditure (hence, some refer to Sweden, laughably, as a socialist state!) This form of socialism demonstrably fails, on all counts. True socialism is impossible."
Response:
You are correct as far as capitalism goes.Which is why it must be removed and replaced with the post-capitalist majority revolutionary alternative. It can't be reformed in any major way, Swedish and Labour Party models do not impinge in any way upon capitalism's rapaciousness. It is like trying to make a vegetarian out of a tiger.
Lenin's model was a Jacobinistic one to win power. Lenin wasn't trying to make socialism, but to make state capitalism, because socialism was impossible in one country and certainly in Russia emerging out of feudalism, not because socialism was impossible or an impossible dream, but because of the fact, as real Marxists told him at the time, socialism is a post-capitalist society and not a post feudal one, which Russia was becoming.
You are correct also that capitalist development creates the tools to eradicate poverty and an educated workforce to create and run ever more of it (the capitalist class are a redundant class now inasmuch as they are not needed for wealth production), (which is why Marx supported capitalist revolutions to overthrow feudalism), but then it has to increase or curtail production to satisfy an artificial 'market' demand in the interest of the minority classes profit accumulation.
The minority capitalist class has become a fetter upon the realisation of the productive potential of the technological capabilities of the potential productive capacitive process capitalism has bequeathed to the 95% wealth producers. Socialism will build upon capitalism.
Capitalism can not distribute resources to satisfy human needs without destroying itself in the process and it also doesn't lift us out of the relative poverty, but retains it as a necessity, to ensure a constant supply of waged slaves. as Voltaire wittingly put it, "The comfort of the rich depends upon an abundant supply of the poor."
The comparison is not with early capitalism and todays, but between the social and economic position of the immense majority relative to the wealth they collectively produce. The needs of industry demands an educated , fed workforce in many instances, as workers also run capitalism from top to bottom, the diseases of poverty can jump class barriers, so self preservaation of the system requires different scenarios to early developmental models, but can revert to smokestack circumstances and shanty towns also, as the developing world shows us.
Poverty in those twin senses, relative and absolute, is entrenched forever if capitalism is retained, as is war (business by other means), trade wars, war over resources and geopolitical interests.
Don't forget also the horror of two world wars for economic dominance and the war science upon Nagaaski and Hiroshima by the kind hearted capitalist class as they currently pick sides for another go.
To say as you do that 'true socialism is impossible' is akin to a person in feudal times expounding against the coming 'impossible' capitalist revolutions.
Nothing will stop social change or an idea which time has come.
The post-capitalist revolution has of necessity to be a majority one. The first time ever for majority revolution and not some vanguardist, Lenin style minority putsch as all previous revolutions have been minority led, 'meet the new boss' ones.
Using the Achilles heel of bourgeois democracy a politically aware immense majority, conscious of their class interest in abolishing the last great slavery, that of wage slavery, can transform the world into a commonly owned , production for use , free access socialist society without elites and change the operating tenet from the present minority favouring exhortation of , "Accumulate, accumulate", into a majority one of , "From each according to their ability, to each according to their needs".
It will not happen by gradually reforming capitalism,nor by premature nationalist adventures masquerading as 'socialism in one country', an impossibility, or mislabelling state capitalist monstrosities, but the primary task of socialists these days is education to this end however long this takes.